KB Monetary Group Inc (KB) Q3 2021 Earnings Name Transcript

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KB Monetary Group Inc (NYSE:KB)
Q3 2021 Earnings Name
Oct 21, 2021, 3:00 a.m. ET


  • Ready Remarks
  • Questions and Solutions
  • Name Contributors

Ready Remarks:


Greetings, I’m Peter Kweon, Head of IR at KB Monetary Group. We’ll now start the 2021 Q3 Enterprise Outcomes Presentation and thanks on your participation at this time. We now have right here with us our group CFO and SEVP, Lee Hwan Ju and different executives from the group. We’ll first have CFO and SEVP, Lee Hwan Ju, stroll us by means of the 2021 Q3 main highlights after which have a Q&A session after the presentation. I wish to invite our SEVP to ship the 2021 Q3 presentation.

Hwan Ju LeeChief Finance Officer

Good afternoon. I’m Lee Hwan Ju, CFO of KB Monetary Group. Thanks for becoming a member of KBFG’s third quarter 2021 earnings launch presentation. Earlier than presenting on the corporate earnings, I’ll transient you on the general operational backdrop first. Final August, in mild of restoration development of home financial system and inflationary strain and deepening monetary imbalance, BOK hiked coverage fee by 25 foundation factors for the primary time in 15 months.

Following the speed hike expectations on NIM enchancment drove rise in banking sector share costs, although quickly, however with the unfold of the delta variant and issues round peak out of financial momentum and early tapering within the U.S., uncertainties, each inner and exterior, are including up. Additionally, as large techs enter the monetary enterprise, there’s a risk that authorities could separate the enterprise of producing and gross sales of merchandise, which can undermine incumbent competitiveness. All in all, operational backdrop does not appear constructive within the monetary sector.

Additionally, there could also be one other coverage fee hike earlier than the top of the yr and as monetary help program for SMEs and small retailers harmed by COVID-19 pandemic has been prolonged by six extra months, there’s a rising concern over deterioration in asset high quality. Therefore, a extra fine-tuned threat administration is required on the a part of monetary establishments.

Underneath this backdrop, let me guarantee you that KB’s asset high quality administration may be very stable, underpinned by our rigorous threat administration framework. Nonetheless, even when asset high quality administration is sort of stable as monetary enterprise has a retrospective traits, one can’t utterly preclude probability of disaster after the top of the help program. So we arrange complete plan for mortgage belongings and strengthened creditworthiness monitoring on debtors who’re liable to detrimental affect and have pre-emptively arrange sector insurance policies for extremely impacted and deteriorating sectors from the COVID pandemic with the intention to absolutely put together for potential dangers.

Additionally, final yr, on the group stage, we made round KRW380 billion in further provisioning securing ample buffer to counter uncertainties sooner or later. So even with the top of the monetary help, we consider there might be restricted probability of a sudden drop in asset high quality or a surge in credit score price.

Subsequent, below the development of digital transformation and monetary transactions, which is rushing up on the again of COVID-19 pandemic, KB will intensify our core competitiveness in monetary companies and increase buyer contact level and additional notch up our personal platform to rework right into a primary monetary platform, most liked by our clients.

To elaborate, KB Financial institution, final July, expanded and carried out PG, which is brief for Partnership Group 2.0, which is an progressive mannequin for the offline channel, shifting away from the legacy one measurement matches all department system to 1 that’s business-centric, i.e., for retail, company and wealth administration, absolutely reflecting department atmosphere and our buyer profile to beef up competitiveness of the offline channel.

Additionally by leveraging the MyData service to be absolutely launched on this yr based mostly on in-depth information evaluation on clients scattered information, we are going to present complete asset administration companies, that are tremendous personalised in order to finish our distinctive channel competitiveness by means of the omnichannel reducing throughout each on and offline and by offering seamless companies. We additionally made board enhancements to the group’s platform, KB Star Banking from consumer comfort perspective and can showcase the brand new platform in order that we could leap ahead as a primary monetary platform. I’ll present extra particulars on KB Star Banking in following slides.

Additionally final June, KB adopted PCAF, which is brief for Partnership for Carbon Accounting Financials, and SBTi, Science-based Goal initiative, disclosing carbon emission from our asset portfolio in a clear method and declared KB Internet Zero S.T.A.R., S-T-A-R, searching for to focus on web zero by 2050. On the 14th of the month, we had been the primary Asia regional monetary firm and home firm to obtain SBTi approval on carbon discount goal. That is significant in that KBFG’s carbon-neutral technique of KB Internet Zero S.T.A.R. was greater than a close to declaration and has been confirmed to have world commonplace objectivity by means of rigorous and science-based carbon discount goal setting.

With the SBTi approval, as we accomplished goal setting, which is a prerequisite towards carbon neutrality, we are going to present robust help to corporations for emissions discount and inexperienced funding and can proceed to collaborate below numerous totally different world initiatives with the intention to repeatedly drive ESG administration.

Now, let me stroll you thru our Q3 2021 enterprise outcomes. KBFG’s third quarter 2021 web revenue reported KRW1.2979 trillion with stable development in web curiosity earnings and web charges and commissions earnings in addition to reversal of provisioning of Hanjin Heavy after the top of the exercise process and KB Insurance coverage’s Q2 ERP and different one-off associated base impact. Internet revenue was up 7.8% QoverQ. Aside from the one-off components, together with the reversal of provisions, web revenue on a recurring foundation was round KRW1.250 trillion. Stable revenue up development continued, due to core revenue development and companywide price management efforts.

In Q2, cumulative foundation web revenue was KRW3.7722 trillion. Regardless of tough inner and exterior operational atmosphere, we solidified core enterprise mannequin of every enterprise line, increasing income and diversified enterprise portfolio by means of M&As, which all drove up revenue, 31.1% year-over-year.

Allow us to now check out every of the segments in additional element. Third quarter cumulative web curiosity earnings was KRW8.2554 trillion, which is up 15.6% on yr. KB Financial institution’s mortgage in received was up 5.5% in comparison with the earlier yr, sustaining sound development. A NIM enchancment, curiosity earnings expanded and consolidation impact from M&As, together with Prudential Life in addition to non-bank subsidiary contribution to curiosity earnings additionally sustained its bettering development.

Q3 cumulative web payment and fee earnings was KRW2.7439 trillion, which is up 26.4% year-over-year or KRW573.4 billion, pushed by charges from securities enterprise round IB enterprise, which reported round KRW116.4 billion, a large improve. And on development in bank card fee quantity, service provider payment earnings elevated, driving enchancment of non-bank subsidiaries’ efficiency and a rise in early redemption of ELS and development in new gross sales. Financial institution’s belief earnings additionally posted an enchancment.

Additionally, third quarter web charges and fee earnings was KRW911.3 billion, regardless of decline in inventory buying and selling quantity, which led to decrease securities enterprise payment earnings. Because of the IB enterprise of the financial institution and enchancment within the revenue of the IB enterprise of the financial institution and securities and better belief earnings from the group, it was up 5.3% year-over-year.

Q3 different our working account reported KRW114.1 billion of loss slowing QonQ. That is as a result of rise in rate of interest and FX charges in Q3, which led to decrease translation beneficial properties from securities, derivatives and FX. And better loss ratio from P&C insurance coverage on the again of seasonality in addition to larger inventory market volatility, which led to larger assure reserving for Prudential Life.

Subsequent is on the group’s G&A expense. Third quarter group G&A reported KRW1.6649 trillion. With the affect of Q2 ERP of KB Insurance coverage and seasonal components, just like the taxes induced eradicated that was a marginal QonQ dip. On a cumulative foundation, G&A reported KRW5.0575 trillion, which appears as if there was a slight improve year-over-year however that is as a result of consolidation impact from the M&A and ERP expense from the insurance coverage enterprise. Aside from these components, G&A is saved at a gentle state.

Subsequent is provision for credit score losses. Q3 cumulative provision for credit score losses posted KRW596.5 billion, a KRW157.8 billion drop YoY. This was a results of qualitative development centering on secure and prime belongings in addition to continued credit score high quality administration efforts and fading away of the extra provisioning associated to COVID-19 in Q2 of the earlier yr.

On a credit score price foundation, it posted 0.22% and is sustaining sound asset high quality. Q3 provision for credit score losses posted KRW199.4 billion and regardless of mortgage asset improve with qualitative development centering on prime belongings and round KRW23 billion of reversal of provision for mortgage losses associated to Hanjin Heavy, it was managed at a low stage.

Wanting on the graph on the underside proper, the non-banking contribution within the group’s web revenue recorded a 44.5% stage in 2021 Q3 on a cumulative stage. This was a results of non-organic development of monetary funding and insurance coverage business areas by means of M&As and increasing revenue stability and revenue technology foundation by means of strengthening core enterprise fashions for every enterprise space. KB, with the intention to overcome limitations within the home market and to safe a sustainable development engine is increasing gross sales capabilities in Southeast Asia, together with the financial institution lately securing 100% of product shares in Cambodia and with the upcoming acquisition by securities of Valbury Securities in Indonesia.

The financial institution has additionally secured IB and capital market gross sales hub in Singapore and is heightening competitiveness within the superior market and thus is heightening its standing within the world market. Going ahead, based mostly on the outcomes and competitiveness that has been achieved domestically, we are going to repeatedly increase our dominance and revenue foundation within the world market and improve our company worth.

From the subsequent web page, I’ll go over the foremost monetary indicators. 2021 Q3 cumulative group ROA and ROE, on the again of group’s core earnings development and conservative asset high quality administration posted 0.81% and 11.85%, respectively and taking into account the recurring ROE, it recorded 12.06% and is sustaining sound fundamentals and profitability.

Subsequent, I wish to cowl financial institution’s loans in received development. Financial institution’s loans in received as of 2021, September-end posted KRW312 trillion, a 5.5% YTD and three.4% QoQ improve, respectively. Intimately, family loans centering on Jeonse loans and Prime Unsecured loans continued stable development and has elevated 3.4% in comparison with finish June. Within the case of company loans, pushed by elevated demand following financial exercise restoration development, centering on SOHO and Prime SME corporations, SME loans grew stably at 2.8% and huge company loans grew considerably at 7.3% and rose 3.4% in comparison with finish June.

Subsequent is web curiosity margin. 2021 Q3 financial institution NIM posted 1.58%, a 2 BP improve QoQ. Regardless of the funding rate of interest repricing impact, which ended final yr following final yr’s large reduce, this was a results of selective and complex mortgage pricing coverage and managed asset profitability enchancment efforts.

Alternatively, within the case of the group NIM, with funding burden elevated following card asset development, card NIM contracted, however on the again of financial institution NIM enchancment, it rose 1 foundation level QoQ. Going ahead, KB, based mostly on robust channel competitiveness, will deal with increasing low-cost deposits, together with settlement of accounts and company core deposits and thru versatile rate of interest administration based mostly on profitability and asset high quality, will safe applicable margin and do our greatest to enhance our NIM as a lot as attainable.

Let’s go to the subsequent web page. I wish to cowl our group’s CIR price earnings ratio. 2021 Q3 cumulative group CIR posted 46.6% and because of stable core earnings improve and steady price administration efforts, a downward stability development is continuous. Excluding one-off components, together with ERP prices, recurring CIR posted a forty five% stage and moreover taking into consideration impact from others, we’re seeing that the price effectivity enchancment development is turning into extra realized.

Subsequent, I wish to cowl credit score price ratio, CCR. 2021 Q3 group and financial institution credit score price every posted 0.20% and 0.05%, respectively. And on a Q3 cumulative foundation, it’s nonetheless being stably managed at 0.22% and 0.08%, respectively. Even excluding the round KRW23 billion of reversal for provision for mortgage losses following the conclusion of Hanjin Heavy Industries labored out on this quarter, the group credit score price maintained a low stage of 0.23% in Q3 and even within the COVID-19 disaster state of affairs, sound asset high quality administration functionality is being confirmed.

With the prolongation of COVID-19 associated numerous monetary help packages and the opportunity of further BOK rate of interest hike, issues over asset high quality is rising. Nonetheless, since we’re pre-emptively getting ready for these prospects and since we’re extra strengthening administration for potential non-viable publicity, we count on to stably handle asset high quality sooner or later as properly.

Subsequent, I wish to cowl group’s capital ratio. 2021 September-end group BIS ratio posted 16.11% and CET1 ratio recorded 13.91%, respectively, and thru 4 bps and 18 bps QoQ, respectively and is sustaining the best stage of capital buffer within the monetary business. Regardless of larger risk-weighted belongings from mortgage development, this was attainable by means of a considerable capital enchancment on the again of things similar to stable web earnings technology and securities valuations acquire improve.

Let’s now go to the subsequent web page. From this web page, I wish to clarify about KB Monetary Group’s consultant digital platform, KB Star Banking that we’ll be newly launching on the finish of this month. Together with the acceleration of on-line monetary transactions as a result of COVID-19 pandemic, with the itemizing of Kakao Financial institution and opening of Tosbank’s operations, competitors with platform corporations is deepening and digitalization is turning into extra pronounced as vital competitiveness within the monetary business.

KB Monetary Group, which has been responding one step forward of those adjustments, specializing in clients’ wants and ache factors has been reinforcing the group’s main platforms. And going ahead, we goal to solidify top-tier standing throughout the digital monetary market by driving digital transformation from an all-around perspective, encompassing platform, content material and advertising and marketing.

As part of these efforts, KB, beginning with KB Star Banking, by means of boldly integrating and reconfiguring the group’s core service from the attitude of shoppers’ comfort goals to strengthen KB’s distinctive platform competitiveness and turn out to be the primary complete monetary platform, which is most beloved by clients.

As you might be properly conscious, the core components for a platform to succeed or to safe the 3Ts, visitors, time sharing and transaction. The essence is to develop and ship killer content material in order that many purchasers can go to the platform and keep for a very long time and make the purchasers use it typically. The brand new KB Star Banking is an expandable complete monetary platform, together with the group’s hub rule, which provides core companies of every subsidiary as one app.

It enhances buyer worth by means of strengthening buyer engagement by providing database personalization service and thru implementing quick and secure service based mostly on cellular optimized infrastructure, we are going to strengthen buyer comfort, and we count on that this might be a powerful platform and safe the 3Ts that I aforementioned. To elucidate in additional element, first, by making use of strategies similar to KB’s personal KB Cellular Certification and in-app browser, we goal to determine an expandable platform foundation, which might embody not solely KB Monetary Group subsidiaries, but in addition various exterior channels.

Going past easy service specializing in inquiries and thru internalizing the consultant core companies of subsidiaries, together with securities, inventory transactions, insurance coverage protection evaluation and insurance coverage claims and KB Card, KB Pay, we goal to determine a KB ecosystem that would absolutely make the most of associated companies with out further app or software or attrition.

We may also connect with exterior channels, together with Government24 and Hometax and supply a versatile platform foundation, which connects seamlessly within the buyer’s life and can increase alliance with private and non-private establishments sooner or later to enhance buyer consumer comfort throughout the platform.

Secondly, by means of strategies, together with dwelling display period and MyPage service, extra refined personalization service might be carried out and thru refined information evaluation, using AI, machine studying and others. And based mostly on Mydata and open banking service, we are going to develop extra segmented content material for patrons and supply buyer personalised asset administration companies.

Final however not least, the brand new KB Star Banking is significant since, even when there’s continued channel and repair growth sooner or later. There may be an expandable foundation, which doesn’t have an effect on velocity or stability. With the applying of SPA, Single Web page Software, in new know-how, there might be a versatile transition of the display in addition to an awesome improve in transaction velocity.

Even when errors happen, we count on that for important transactions by means of establishing cellular banking optimized infrastructure system, stability might be tremendously improved. Aside from this, KB, by means of reference to nonfinancial platforms, together with Liiv Actual Property and Healthcare will full KB’s distinctive platform competitiveness, which naturally connects finance and lives and turn out to be our clients’ most beloved lifetime monetary accomplice going ahead.

From the subsequent web page, please discover the detailed supplies associated to the efficiency that I simply aforementioned. So please discuss with it if wanted. With this, I’ll conclude my enterprise outcomes presentation for 2021 Q3 of KB Monetary Group. Thanks for listening.

Questions and Solutions:


[Operator Instructions] First query from Hanwha Securities, Do Ha Kim. Please go forward together with your questions.

Do Ha KimHanwha Securities — Analyst

Thanks. I wish to ask you two questions. First, we’re pleased to see that the margin did go up even barely. Mainly, the affect of an increase in loans. Do you assume that the affect will play out and full fledge in This fall as a result of in Q3, for those who take a look at NIS determine, the stand-alone determine by way of — somewhat than rebound in curiosity earnings, I believe there was an even bigger affect on the development of the funding price. So I wish to perceive whether or not the profitability enchancment is definitely going to be translated into a better margin within the fourth quarter?

My second query is over a few years, you’ve got carried out a number of variety of M&As and with reference to bank card, insurance coverage, capital P&C, it looks as if your subsidiary portfolio has turn out to be very a lot diversified. Now then yearly, this earnings capability of KRW4 trillion each year, I wish to perceive how you possibly can greatest leverage off of this important capital that you will be producing by way of making M&A funding or going overseas or cancellation of shares or buyback of shares. So what are a few of your plans concerning the usage of the capital?

Peter KweonManaging Director & Head of Investor Relations

Give us one second as we put together to reply to the query.

Hwan Ju LeeChief Finance Officer

Thanks, Ms. Do Ha Kim, for the questions. I’ll reply to the query on NIM. Concerning M&A, Chang Kwon Lee, our Senior Govt VP, will reply a query on M&A. In case you take a look at third quarter NIM profile on a QonQ foundation, we noticed 1 foundation level improve. When it comes to funding, we have — I assume, we had a really selective coverage on loans. So on family loans, we had been capable of result in enchancment in unfold and funding yield on securities additionally went up. In order that additionally drove that enchancment in NIM.

On the funding price, we actually centered on increasing the deposit with low funding prices. We had round KRW3.8 trillion improve in core deposits. Now in August, there was rate of interest hike. So short-term fee actually surged. So the MDA actually improved fairly considerably. So there was a restrict on the — there was a ceiling on the development on NIM. Now, the nominal enchancment of two foundation factors, however for those who take a look at the fractional foundation, for those who spherical that up or spherical that down, there’s been a 1.3 foundation level improve to be fairly correct. Now for those who take a look at on a cumulative foundation, financial institution’s NIM, respectively, is 1.82% and 1.57% and so in comparison with the earlier yr’s NIM, there’s been a 6 foundation factors enchancment for each the group and the financial institution.

Now final yr, there was a 75 foundation level of fee reduce and it was a really tough atmosphere for us to defend our web curiosity margin, however we had been capable of repeatedly develop our core deposit, and we actually centered on a backside line centric lending insurance policies in addition to asset administration insurance policies. When it comes to the NIM outlook, beginning fourth quarter, now the asset repricing affect is progressively being seen following the rate of interest hike in August and likewise with the rules on households loans in addition to extra alleviated aggressive panorama, we count on the loan-to-deposit unfold to enhance and NIM to proceed on with the gradual enchancment development.

Nonetheless, we expect {that a} full-fledged NIM growth will come into play from first quarter of subsequent yr. Together with this yr, November and as much as first half of subsequent yr, if we assume that there might be two extra fee hikes, then subsequent yr, following this yr’s development, we expect there might be significant enchancment in NIM. Our firm may be very a lot centered on profit-centric lending insurance policies, and we adjust to the federal government’s combination mortgage restrict regulation and below a really conservative development strategy, we are going to improve on a chief unsecured loans.

And likewise, I’ve talked about this throughout the presentation, however we might be introducing the settlement account in addition to firm’s core deposits. So these are the low-cost deposits, and we consider that on a funding side, we can actually handle our revenue and be sure that we get applicable stage of revenue from these companies.

Chang Kwon LeeChief Technique Officer

I’m CSO, Lee Chan Kwon from KB Monetary Group. Thanks very a lot for an awesome query. When it comes to capital plan and whether or not now we have any plans for additional M&As going ahead. As you understand, KB, we acquired Prudential Life, and likewise we have acquired Bukopin Financial institution from Indonesia and made funding into Cambodia’s PRASAC Financial institution as properly. So there have been mega offers for us. So in the interim, somewhat than coming into into one other M&A, we are going to focus extra on stabilizing these acquired entities group and actually deal with maximizing synergies throughout our subsidiary.

So worth up is our focus, however that does not imply that we’re utterly near M&A prospects. If we expect that there are any good belongings and alternatives that would assist with the company worth of KB, we will certainly take a look at the capital effectivity side in addition to totally different potentials in making the choice. If we had been to go forward with an M&A venture, we cannot simply deal with rising the scale. We’d take a look at the goal group and we’d assess whether or not that firm may give us 10% stage of ROIC and the attractiveness of the sector in addition to whether or not the strategic match is nice with our firm and after post-acquisition, what are among the synergies that we might search for. So these totally different features and components might be thought-about.

Additionally, within the world market, for geographies the place we expect there’s excessive development potential, we are going to take a look at alternatives the place we might additional increase our affect, however for those who take a look at the worldwide market, there’s a sovereign threat in addition to regulatory atmosphere and monetary market atmosphere. All these features should even be thought-about. On the identical time, with the intention to counter the upcoming development in monetary business, we are going to take a look at probably investing into good investments to fintech corporations and enterprise corporations and progressive know-how corporations. I hope this solutions your query.

Hwan Ju LeeChief Finance Officer

Yet one more factor I wish to add by way of shareholder return and I believe our dividend-related coverage query is an space that different analysts are additionally fairly desirous about. So if I could reply to that query. With respect to the payout ratio in addition to making interim or quarterly fee extra common and likewise share buyback, I believe these are three matters that you’ve fairly a little bit of curiosity in. So since you’ve got talked about shareholder return, let me simply cowl all of these matters. So, throughout our earnings name I’ve talked about this on quite a few events, now now we have a progressive dividend coverage in place.

And that coverage, to begin with, continues to be legitimate. There isn’t any change in that strategy. With respect to this yr’s payout, though I can not be definitive, we — there’s the COVID pandemic and likewise we might take into account the regulatory course of the authorities. Our resolution might be made based mostly on that. We talked about this in Q2, however so long as there is no such thing as a important macroeconomic adjustments, we consider the pre-COVID stage, which is 26%, payout ratio of 26%. Normalizing to that stage, we expect isn’t a giant drawback at this level.

As you understand, we at present maintain 6% treasury shares. And so the precise payout ratio might truly be larger than the 26% payout ratio. And since our measurement of revenue has elevated considerably in comparison with earlier yr, we consider that on a DPS foundation, there might be some significant improve as properly. When it comes to quarterly payout, I do know Shinhan Holdings has performed payout in Q2, they usually haven’t but disclosed for the third quarter, however we count on there might be a dividend within the third quarter as properly.

As you understand, this yr, for the primary time because the setup of the corporate, we paid out interim dividend. When it comes to paying quarterly dividend or making this dividend payout extra common, now we have not but made the ultimate resolution, however in mild of the shareholder return tendencies of the worldwide and superior corporations and based mostly on the suggestions that we get from our traders, we are going to be sure that our resolution is in keeping with the curiosity of our shareholders.

Regarding share buyback and probably cancellation of such shares, KBFG in mild of the year-end dividend in addition to macroeconomic backdrop and our communication with the regulator, we have all the time thought-about these components in making a call. Over a few years, now we have had a combination and match between dividend payout and share buyback, and we had been capable of present complete shareholder return above what the market had supplied. We nonetheless persist with that strategy and below that coverage, we are going to be sure that we expect laborious about methods to additional enhance on shareholder return and we might be clear in speaking with the market on this level.

In relation to canceling of such shares as a result of financial uncertainties and COVID pandemic affect being extended, it is tough to I assume specify what our place is from a short-term perspective, however we consider that after this yr, we can offer you a extra concrete reply after this yr by way of share cancellation. When it comes to use of capital and shareholder return coverage, we need to be sure we’re on the very forefront and we make investments a lot effort in responding to the expectations of the market and the shareholders.

Peter KweonManaging Director & Head of Investor Relations

Thanks very a lot for the detailed reply. We’ll take the subsequent query from Hyundai Securities, Kim Jin-Sang.

Kim Jin-SangHyundai Securities — Analyst

Congratulations in your earnings. I’ve two questions. First query is about one thing that you’ve already talked about about authorities limitations on combination foundation the mortgage restrict, and we can’t ignore the regulation threat. Going one step additional, it might get stronger or there might be loss sharing for the small retailers or for the debtors. There might be rate of interest changes or help for these debtors and retailers. Due to COVID-19, we might have a regulation threat that would lag till subsequent yr and a few are additionally saying that we might have actual property threat. So I believe that there might be some issues over this. So associated to regulation threat, can we ask the executives about what your ideas are and the way you are going to reply?

Secondly, this yr’s revenue, we see that 30% improve charges outcomes, however however, for the traders, as a result of that is on a excessive base, the best revenue development of multiple digit to single digit, can that proceed for subsequent yr, NIM can enhance and COVID-19 provisioning could be reversed, however I believe that concerning the asset impact or the NIM enchancment and the credit score prices, properly, they might be picked out and at the moment, your earnings can visibly lower and even have an impairment. So are you able to inform us about what can occur? So what are your ideas on this? What’s your thought course of? And any pre-emptive measures.

Peter KweonManaging Director & Head of Investor Relations

Thanks very a lot on your insightful questions. We’ll quickly reply them.

Jong Hee YangVice Chairman & Chief Operator Officer

Thanks Kim Jin-Sang on your questions. I’m the CFO of the Financial institution. My title is Jong Hee Yang. You requested in regards to the regulation threat for family loans. And as you might be most likely conscious within the media, many financial specialists are saying that due to overburden of family loans. It might be a considerable potential threat for the Korean financial system.

And when now we have the coverage adjustments and if we do have U.S. tapering and different adjustments and different uncertainties that would improve, I believe everyone thinks that we have to have applicable family mortgage administration. That’s the reason I consider that there’s some intervention about limiting family threat to a sure limits. And I consider that subsequent month, the federal government will announce some measures.

On the financial institution facet, when there’s family loans that improve out of the blue, there might be dangers. And if now we have the rate of interest cycle, will probably be vital for us to pursue conservative insurance policies. Within the case of KB, we all the time consider profitability and asset high quality. On the forefront, so till the primary a part of this yr, there was 1.5% development for loans, and there was a balloon impact by different rivals. And at finish September, there was 4.9%. And adhering to the mixture mortgage restrict with the intention to present mortgage help for Jeonse or mortgage loans or others, we are going to lower the restrict and to have strengthening of the underwriting of DSR.

And going ahead, pursuing development based mostly on profitability and asset high quality will proceed, and we are going to see what the precise demand is and management accordingly. As you’ve got talked about, within the family facet, if this most of these rules proceed what is going to KB do. Going ahead, our financial institution’s efficiency was differentiated as a result of somewhat than family loans, giant corporates or WN or future core companies, I consider, might be extra centered, and that might be our differentiator.

We do have the reorganization of HR on this space and for capital as properly. And within the case of family loans, we improved our working course of, and we additionally will alleviate the burden by means of having extra measures for on-line. And for the credit score underwriting and others, we see automation and development of applied sciences in order that we will focus extra on advertising and marketing and buyer administration.

After COVID-19, we consider that the enterprise construction might be reorganized, and we’re shifting in that course. And we need to pursue further development alternatives. So if we’re lagging in family facet, we have to make up for it and for the prime SMEs or different corporations, our HQ is getting ready for full-fledged advertising and marketing and the federal government is seeing new deal or fourth industrial revolution industries. So if now we have promising corporations or platform corporations, then we are going to be sure to strategically embody them and to have that into our plans. Our credit standing mannequin will have to be extra superior and our business insurance policies might be extra superior to satisfy these wants.

Within the case of IB that I aforementioned, based mostly on world IB, plainly the market is awakening as soon as once more. So we need to have extra HR and capital and put it into IB. And for ESG and others, we’re increasing our strategic investments. You additionally talked about throughout your remarks that for the service provider debtors and different susceptible debtors, what are we going to do and SOHO as properly?

After COVID-19, there was nice help, and we do not know whether or not it will discontinue in March or will probably be extended. Though it’s slated to finish in March. And even when it ends in March, we need to alleviate the burden on the debtors in order that we will have a tender touchdown. We might have a maturity extension, grace interval or we might have extra time for them to repay.

And we consider that may allow them to stay as our clients, and that may assist us in our competitiveness. We need to give lively help on this course in order that we may give help to those SMEs and our service provider debtors. Thanks very a lot.

Hwan Ju LeeChief Finance Officer

I wish to reply the second query, and I consider that you simply requested about mid to long-term monetary efficiency and peak out. Properly, we will not win the market. That is my fundamental ideas. I consider that we have to overcome the market and below this presupposition for subsequent yr’s enterprise planning, that is what we’re doing on the group. And after we plan, we do not assume simply forward for one yr, now we have a rolling plan wanting forward for 3 to 5 years’ time and what we’re pondering of at this level is for us to have a sustainable portfolio construction.

It might be financial institution and non-bank, and it might be totally different enterprise portfolios for various subsidiaries. So somewhat than specializing in short-term earnings, we need to focus extra on sustainable efficiency. What I consider is after we take a look at the financial institution and nonbank subsidiaries for the financial institution, we’re primary, however I believe now we have the potential to turn out to be the overwhelming primary. And for nonbanking subsidiaries, securities, insurance coverage, card and others, we aren’t primary but. Which means now we have the potential to turn out to be primary. And if we will overcome the state of affairs, non-banking may also present extra contribution.

And in response to your third query, we’re making many efforts in world and we’re investing many assets. In our portfolio, world contribution is, as you most likely know, in comparison with our rivals is sort of low and after we take into consideration rising our protection, global-related earnings, if it helps us tremendously, then I consider that it could actually assist us improve our revenue technology foundation and as was talked about in your query, by means of our nice capital or earnings functionality, if we will have inorganic additions, then not just for subsequent yr, however I consider that we do have some leeway for extra development sooner or later. So we are going to make efforts and we are going to make plans to take action. Thanks very a lot.


We now transfer on to subsequent query from Samsung Securities, Mr. Kim Jaewoo.

Kim JaewooSamsung Securities — Analyst

I’ve two questions. First, I believe you probably did present some element on digital platform. I perceive there is a new software that is going to be launched, and I do know that it will help inventory buying and selling as properly. And I believe that is going to have some constructive affect, but when all of those options are included on this software, is not the app going to turn out to be overly too heavy? And first, is that not an issue? That is the primary query.

And likewise, what are among the resolution choices that you’re envisioning? As a result of there’s numerous fintech suppliers. They undertake open platform, they usually present comparability and referral companies, however what then is a differentiating level for KBFG’s monetary platform? What is the shopper profit that you simply’re planning to offer?

And second, now Mydata service might be launched. I wish to perceive what KBFG’s technique for Mydata enterprise appears like. One other query is KB Insurance coverage efficiency. It looks as if there was fairly a little bit of a rise regarding the funding earnings. Might you present some elaboration on what that issue is?

Peter KweonManaging Director & Head of Investor Relations

Sure, we are going to reply to these questions shortly.

Whan Han DongDeputy President CDPO

Thanks. Mr. Kim Jaewoo, on your query. I’m Han Dong Whan, CDPO at KBFG. Our CFO supplied numerous data. If I may add, KB Star Banking. If I had been to characterize what that is, principally a financial institution’s core digital channel. It is now going to turn out to be the group’s core digital channel that is the transition. So by way of inventory buying and selling and claims course of for insurance coverage, all of those options at the moment are housed inside this platform. Sure, the earlier KB Financial institution app was very heavy. So I perceive the place your concern is coming from.

Nonetheless, if we undertake in-app browser know-how and API know-how is utilized to be sure that interface is seamless. So for those who take a look at the capability of this app in comparison with our rivals like Seoul Kakao Financial institution, our software on a comparative foundation isn’t overly heavy in comparison with our friends. So, I guarantee you there is no such thing as a drawback with reference to the system capability.

And by way of cellular optimization, it is a new software that’s optimized for the cellular platform. So the customers in the case of their expertise, they’ll really feel extra handy and simple to make use of on high of the cellular platform. So in comparison with Kakao Financial institution and different large tech corporations, I consider that we’re on par by way of the optimization stage that we’re offering.

Now what are among the key options that we could provide on this platform? The large tech platforms, they actually deal with comfort side, however KBFG, now we have monetary capabilities and experience and now we have power and knowhow in how we might assist our clients construct their wealth and incumbent monetary establishments have strengthened that side, and we simply must translate that right into a digital atmosphere.

And as you’ve got additionally talked about, there’s simply Mydata license, and we need to actually hyperlink this up with Mydata enterprise in order that we might present higher options to our consumer base. For us, Star Banking is easy, straightforward, speedy and safe. So there are 4 S’s and there’s one other, which is personalised, however we wanted to make this into asset that’s appropriate for customers. So the whole lot is personalised.

All our friends are saying that they are offering personalised and customised companies, however at KB, now we have important consumer base. And on the identical time, now we have immense quantity of consumer information. We even have very sophisticated and compounded information with reference to totally different product choices. So if we’re capable of combination all of our capabilities and experience and the info, we consider, and we’re most sure that we will present significant companies and merchandise to our consumer base.

And likewise, now we have cellular certificates as properly. In case you take a look at platform enterprise and ecosystem enterprise, that cellular certificates is on the very basis of the entire transactions. So cellular certificates of all of the personal certificates, KB is the one which’s processing probably the most variety of certificates. So based mostly on the certificates, we will truly present Mydata companies in addition to very sophisticated product.

And customers don’t want to fret about their privacy-related threat and this actually supplies basis for individuals to subscribe to and buy totally different services. So by using all of those components, we are going to be sure we provide you with an answer that present one of the best expertise to our buyer base.

Byung Joo OhManaging Director, Insurance coverage Enterprise Unit

Sure. I am from KB Insurance coverage. I’ll briefly reply to your query on KB Insurance coverage. As you understand, this yr, for those who take a look at rate of interest atmosphere, we weren’t capable of get beneficial properties from disposition of a bond, however our new cash yield improved year-over-year foundation, however we expect that we did not have ample time for it to really be mirrored on this yr’s efficiency, however this yr, the equities market, there have been numerous IPOs. And all of the PEF and different investments, there have been liquidation of these positions. So there have been beneficial properties from the liquidation of such positions, and that basically had an even bigger affect on rising our funding acquire. We’ll take the subsequent query from Kiwoom Securities, Web optimization Younger-Soo.

Web optimization Younger-SooKiwoom Securities — Analyst

Congratulations in your efficiency. I’ve two questions. They’re interrelated. The primary query is that, on this state of affairs, we’d like to consider post-COVID, and there might be susceptible debtors and small retailers that many are involved about, however I additionally assume that going ahead, there’s the debt restructuring rate of interest hike that the federal government has in thoughts. And proper after COVID-19 disaster, there might be the individuals of their 20s and 30s that invested closely within the inventory market and the true property market and numerous these investments had been unsecured.

And due to tightening regulation, we might have some repercussions, and I consider which may be one other level of concern that we have to be truly extra involved about for the bank card delinquency fee for the primary time. After March of 2020, it went up 5 bps. And within the precautionary and under, plainly it additionally went up. There have been mortgage regulation strengthening. And if now we have extra rules for loans, then there might be extra delinquencies going ahead. So are you able to inform us about what you are pondering and the way you are going to reply? That’s my first query.

That is my second query. Till now, we solely noticed the asset market up each tendencies, and there was robust collateral and good market state of affairs. So even when there was much less provisioning for the NPLs, plainly you had provisioned tremendously, however your complete belongings and our provisioning, plainly our provisioning is low in comparison with superior markets similar to U.S.

Nonetheless, if there’s changes sooner or later due to authorities insurance policies and others, I believe there might be a burden due to this provisioning. There may be IFRS 9 and others and if we make the most of them, we might provision extra, however in This fall, usually, I believe it’s a good alternative for a giant path. So going ahead, do you could have any plans to have daring provisioning? And that may also be in adherence with the federal government’s insurance policies going ahead. So do you could have any plans for large path or others associated to provisioning?

Peter KweonManaging Director & Head of Investor Relations

Thanks very a lot, Director Web optimization, on your questions, and we are going to quickly reply them.

Hwan Ju LeeChief Finance Officer

I believe you requested two questions. First is when rate of interest goes up and when that restructuring rules are strengthened, these of their 20s and 30s had invested unscrupulously resulting in extra credit score threat due to unsecured loans. And we noticed the money circulation for this yr, and we noticed some going to on-line belongings or digital belongings and others.

And we had monitored them and till now, plainly the restrict for unsecured loans, we attempt to restrict them to a sure extent and to have applicable administration. So we consider that we aren’t overly involved about this. And the federal government’s DSR rules, they stated that will probably be modified to 40% per particular person. And the banks on common, 40%. And so they ask the banks to control this and to have it lower than 3% for the financial institution and 5%. So we had been already regulating this to a low quantity.

So for the unsecured loans, we don’t assume that they’ll truly act as large burdens to us sooner or later, however we have to be conscious that there’s a risk. So for the mortgage administration division, there are a number of debtors or there are debtors which have board towards us and different secondary monetary establishments. So in these instances, when there’s maturity interval, then we will permit them for partial compensation and to provide you with a plan.

So we might be very thorough within the administration of those instances. And for provisioning, you additionally ask for a risk of daring provisioning. After subsequent yr, I consider that many individuals consider the financial system will get well and turn out to be extra rosy. And after COVID ends, there might be some polarization of prospects within the financial system, and there might be curiosity compensation burden.

And for some debtors their conditions can deteriorate. We had been very conservative in provisioning as a result of we knew that these prospects might be realized and since we had provisioned for this susceptible debtors in comparison with our NPL, our protection ratio as of finish of September, it was about 180%. So it has been constantly rising for the previous two to 3 years and I believe in comparison with different banks or rivals, we’re pre-emptively managing this.

And final yr, because of COVID-19, as was talked about by the CFO of the group, we had a pre-emptive provisioning, and this helped us this yr. Subsequent yr, if there’s a provisioning burden due to the chances that you’ve got enumerated, and we can’t ignore that. So if there’s a gradual financial restoration due to the forward-looking state of affairs, there might be some reversals, however now we have not thought-about these prospects, and now we have a conservative financial forecast state of affairs and we are going to apply an overlay methodology for the financial forecast.

We consider that we might sufficiently be ready for future dangers. And in This fall, daring provisioning, resembling a giant guess that you’ve got simply talked about. Properly, concerning whether or not we are going to do it or not, we might want to assume lengthy and laborious, however even when we do not boldly provision, there’s amassed threat administration and credit score underwriting and evaluation capabilities that we amassed. So we consider that we will develop and likewise deal with our asset high quality administration. So we spent a bit multiple hour. I believe now we have time for one final query earlier than we shut. From Citi Securities, Yafei.

Yafei TianCiti Securities — Analyst

I’ve truly two questions, if I could. So the primary query is across the digital initiatives that you’ve laid out. And I simply needed to grasp, have you ever performed a lot calculation what’s the price to serve for this new channel in comparison with the standard department channel? And have you ever performed any estimate what would be the profitability within the new channel? That is the primary query. After which the second is round asset high quality. Are there any risk you may be capable to do write-backs subsequent yr given that you’ve provisioned for COVID beforehand?

Peter KweonManaging Director & Head of Investor Relations

Sure, Yafei, simply give us one second. We’ll reply to that query shortly. Ms. Yafei Tian, thanks very a lot for the query. Concerning your first query on digital transformation or digital initiative. Beginning this yr, we internally have set some inner indicators to handle towards. First, principally we might take a look at share of so-called digital clients and likewise after we entice or purchase new clients, how a lot of a brand new buyer are we getting from this digital new channel? And likewise, when there’s gross sales throughout our digital channel, out of our complete gross sales, what is the mixture of our gross sales by way of this digital channel? So these are among the measures that we’re monitoring. When it comes to price construction and profitability, at this level, we’re at present enterprise a venture for managerial objective accounting. So as soon as that venture is full, we can get extra perception by way of CIR, how a lot of a digital channel contribution are we getting by way of price earnings ratio. So we can meet that stage, however proper now, we’re solely on the stage of exercise fee of our customers by means of the digital channel. The post-COVID, we’re following COVID by way of the efficiency that we’re getting from digital channel. We’re seeing good efficiency that come out of digital channel. Nonetheless, we’re within the course of of creating this information extra refined and as soon as we get that, we are going to come again to you and talk to you extra element.

Jong Hee YangVice Chairman & Chief Operator Officer

Thanks very a lot for that query. When it comes to the availability and provisioning coverage, we give you some clarification earlier than. Simply general to give you the large image, for those who take a look at our protection ratio and different measures, KBFG’s provisioning coverage is pre-emptive and can also be fairly conservative. That has been our strategy over time. And I believe that side might be seen from all the info factors.

Going ahead, we are going to proceed to be fairly conservative in the case of provisioning. In case you take a look at this yr, and your query was with respect to the potential reversal or write-back of provisions subsequent yr, finish of this yr, we are going to take a look at the situations on the system stage. So there’s forward-looking situations, that are methods based mostly. And likewise, there are some sector-based state of affairs evaluation as properly. Final yr, there was provisioning of KRW380 billion on the methods stage, forward-looking FSC. So principally, now we have provisioned extra conservatively based mostly — in comparison with simply the methods stage evaluation. Subsequent yr and years to return, what is going to the financial cycle appear like?

So relying on that, are we going so as to add extra on high of the present measurement of provisioning? Mainly, we must wait and see how issues play out. I believe it is a bit too early for me to present you a definitive reply as as to if we might truly be writing again some provisions subsequent yr. All in all, principally, our provisioning coverage may be very pre-emptive and conservative.

Peter KweonManaging Director & Head of Investor Relations

Thanks on your reply. And we are going to conclude the Q&A on this be aware and likewise conclude our earnings presentation. Thanks very a lot.

Period: 74 minutes

Name members:

Hwan Ju LeeChief Finance Officer

Peter KweonManaging Director & Head of Investor Relations

Chang Kwon LeeChief Technique Officer

Jong Hee YangVice Chairman & Chief Operator Officer

Whan Han DongDeputy President CDPO

Byung Joo OhManaging Director, Insurance coverage Enterprise Unit

Do Ha KimHanwha Securities — Analyst

Kim Jin-SangHyundai Securities — Analyst

Kim JaewooSamsung Securities — Analyst

Web optimization Younger-SooKiwoom Securities — Analyst

Yafei TianCiti Securities — Analyst

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